Quite possibly, but are you now familiar with the superficial aspect, and that it does not represent the Depth of the original?
This is the very thing that happened to 'religion' during the 'renaissance period', as the superficial aspect became outdated and we had the slow birth of 'science', also the fledgling 'politics'. It can be observed that, at around this same time, the reaction of the two 'big' religions of Europe (christianity and Islam), was to become fragmented within themselves. 'Christianity' was splitting into many forms, re-writing a 'king james version' of its book, and Islam put a hold on its, at the time, far more advanced 'scientific' exploits. These 'exploits', then became the 'esoterica' you mentioned earlier. Again, this paragraph is an example of a very brief and superficial 'overview' to a much deeper subject, and it serves only a superficial purpose.
This is not just about individual 'groups', or 'tribes', but is an intrinsic way of thinking for Humans. An important aspect, because it helps us to explain how we blindly harm ourselves
, and of course, our children, consequently, by watering down important, original findings, into the superficial.
When people only 'concentrate' on the superficial element (the 'face), of anything
, they simply limit their own powers of understanding. And, as we all know, there are many exploiters of these shortcomings, many 'middle-men'. This aspect can be seen in everyday modern life, as we are all encouraged into this 'middle-manism', superficial way of thinking. People tend to have the superficial faces of things flashed before them, and proceed to think they know all about the given subject, relying on the work of the original 'expert', as a matter of 'blind faith'. This is not just 'religion', but the way in which the modern Human 'operates'. From here, he becomes an 'expert', because his 'face' depends on it.
We have gathered so much information, now, that it seems to be a necessary way of understanding it all, by just 'believing' in the superficial 'flashes' (we may even call these the 'subliminal flashes'), instead of delving into the depth of the original, which is, of course, where the Truth of things occurs.
This is why it is important to reach the same depth, but from your own perspective. They were then, You are now, and things are always changing.
The superficial aspect of the esoteric...or of being in a cage or of hippy-ness?
I guess we really aren't saying the same thing after all. I think you have an idea that you can help me to be freed from a sort of "blinders on" type of thinking...a distorted kind of thinking as if I am coming from an image of what I am...I am not really impressed by those who label themselves, nor do I say (in my profile) I spring from a revolution that was the 60's and early 70's, to describe wholly who I am...but to demonstrate how I was raised which leads to who I have become because of that truth or that superficiality.
If truths become superficial then they have "lost their depth of meaning"...Yet if something is true, it is true for the time...for the duration of it's truth, true for one or for countless people a truth has it's place in time. Like when people thought that the earth was flat....that was a non-truth in reality, but for millions it was the truth and so it was their truth
....no man could have changed their minds on it until it was widely recognized that it was a fallacy, and wrong, a belief but not a fact. In actuality...we know now that the Earth was never flat. But step outside your door and the Earth appears to be flat, still...we know that we are living on a ball..but it is so large that it is actually flat. So...who was wrong to be so right? The Earth is a ball which is often times flat...sometimes, rocky or hilly or mountainous or muddy & slippery...but we really never notice it's curvature, even when things get slippery...for we can get up without falling off the ball, except for our knowledge that it is curved, we still see the earth as flat but we now know intrinsically that we live on a sphere.
Now with that as analogy...you can know that besides being what I call a child of the 60's, I am in no way less open to truth... Maybe it is a truth/fact that we are in a quantum hologram of consciousness, and ultimately, where nothing is as it seems...Or a reality where the body is nearly only a vessel to take in nutrients that the brain may survive to evolve...
Thus ~ I am my brain, my soul and heart....all are one to me, and if I lose my ability to think I might
have no heart connection, and I may have no soul connection, but they may still live without the mind...studies in what a coma really is have not spat out enough evidence to be sure about this.
Is the thread to the ethereal...In Huna the Aka cord, a thread to a world where there are creator beings, or One creator of man & nature...Or is my connection to life merely earthly and when we die are we just gone forever, food for the worms...our souls our minds disassembled?
The evidence on this has not been proved, either way. It is left W I D E Open. We choose what to believe there....why do we Choose? Why is that? Why has science not come up with the equivalent of the Earth is Round... and a planet! Why is this taking so long to decipher...the Otherworldly?
For one thing Science lives to take a superior attitude to things that they do not understand and calling them FALSE allows those in Science to keep FLAT (superstitious, mythical) associations to them...and think that people who know something in these widely misunderstood areas are just stupid and not worthy of their time or energy. it is wrong. Studies must be done...a wealth of information may unfold if (our) hypothesis were tested scientifically, in the areas that are most notably avoided.
Still Science claims objectivity and yet is vehement about things they are taught
to avoid. No one even bothers to give any validation to things that are witnessed universally...across the whole of our earth... people see ghosts, and have visions, predictions, channeling's, leave the body, visit otherworldly places, parallel realities, and travel through time...they see things like elves and leprechauns, they believe in daemons and devils, they make supplication to Gods.
These things are not non-existent because Science poo poo's them as false. They live to these people, they are very REAL to the people who witness them, and that makes them real.
Science has now been turned asunder and they are the fools you see, if they dare not step forward in their studies and tap into the ESOTERIC realm, they are the ones who are afraid to find that they were wrong...they are decrying once again that the earth is FLAT! Some us know better...and we have had it proven to us in whatever manner, but what we know is that science is lagging in their presumptuous flatness.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric
There is no answer for the ESOTERIC (defined in the wiki article above) BUT TO OPEN IT UP. It is the Pandora's box that science like to keep shut and with it's many reasonable locks placed, and the keys...quite lost!
SO...that said, I hate to say that so many I do admire are perhaps inferior, to an average fellow because they want to keep things shut up...they want to keep a flat realistic world view, and I can't abide it. They are scared to be wrong about things I think.
There, I have said it again Science...it's practitioners are scared of the truth! They are afraid that we will find value in what was called ridiculous for so long. They are cowardly lions who don't even have the courage to look at the face of the Wizard, to ask for what is true. Then I shall play Toto...the dog who ran to pull back the curtain and discover the MAN behind the curtain.
The MAN is the truth that all things of an esoteric manner do exist for those who live with them. And because we are told we are ignorant does not make a dis-believer of us..it merely makes us think that scientists are also quite ignorant
, and afraid of the truth of the matter...that what was or is known was and is known...and what we saw, we saw...in reality !
(For instance) That UFO are real and goverment cover-up's are real too, not to mention corrupt and dangerous to them because they will be found out. Like watergate and it won't be pretty.
So having Man look to Man to discover what he knows to be true (the Earth IS ROUND) The paranormal is NORMAL...is REAL! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal
This is a waiting game...and looks like we can keep waiting into infinity because what science ignores will never be proved wrong or right it will merely be a neglected area of in-expertise wont it?
23rd December 2007 - 09:27 PM
All things have superficial and deeper levels, tikay. Such are the benefits of existing in 3 dimensions!
I'm sorry, but you've lost me almost entirely now. Flat Earths, and normal 'paranormalness', etc...
I wish you the best with whatever endeavours you pursue, as i sense you are a kind soul.